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BURNIE: Okay, recording. Hello everyone. This is Burnie Burns.
GEOFF: Hey, I am Geoff Ramsey.
GUS: Gus Sorola!
JOEL: Joel Heyman.
BURNIE: The sound of that mic being moved around is Geoff, who had probably about what? 45 minutes to move your mic around?
GEOFF: To prepare my mic and the last second I decided to uhh…
BURNIE: And you waited until we actually hit record, and then starts yankin’ on the mic. So how’s everybody doin’?
GEOFF: Awesome.
GUS: Great!
JOEL: Faaantastic.
BURNIE: Yeahaha, bu-
GUS: It’s bright and early and we’re all super energetic now. It’s not like one of those lazy afternoon podcasts.
GEOFF: So I think th- Speaking of lazy afternoon podcasts, the first thing we should probably address is why there wasn’t a podcast last week.
BURNIE: I was gonna ask.
GEOFF: Wh-When in effect there was a podcast last week that did not get released.
BURNIE: How- How’s everyone doing from that? Podcast last week.
GUS: Terrible. Terrible. I mean… W-We decided we were gonna make a video podcast of us tryna play co-op Flock? Was- that was the name of the game right? I had never seen it-
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Yes.
GUS: -before then and uhh…
BURNIE: It’s- it’s a game on Xbox Live where you use a saucer, spaceship and you-
JOEL: And you.. herd popcorn.
BURNIE: You herd- you herd little puffy sheep, and cows and all that and how did it go?
GUS: It was miserable.
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: That game was terrible! I m- I can’t believe that’s a game!
BURNIE: It was like a torture podcast.
GEOFF: It was.
GUS: People ask if we’re y’know, paid for product placement. You can tell this is a- you can definitely tell this is not the case now.
GEOFF: Thanks, Crapcom.
BURNIE: Aha yeah. Capcom- I think it was a port from either a PC game or a PS3 game they decided to throw out there on Xbox Live Arcade. And I brought it in ‘cause we had fun being lousy at Left 4 Dead. I thought “let’s take a lousy game and play a bad game and all be miserable”? And it just was like… 40 minutes of SHIT.
GUS: Yeah. I think eventually we gave up and just gave Joel the controller and made fun of him tryna play the game.
JOEL: Yea I’m really glad that didn’t come out.
GEOFF: Yeah. There were like 2 entertaining minutes of us watching Joel by himself try’ta play but… it wasn’t worth the 38 minutes wrapped around it.
BURNIE: Basically the game… w-b… Boils down to… Here’s a cute game with horrible controls.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: And like, you have to like- It’s almost like trying to like- Imagine a game where you had 2 like charged magnets and you push one magnet around the table with the other one and that’s it.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: Except the other magnet… it just inconsistently will fly off the table and kill somebody.
JOEL: And you’re thinking the aliens would have better like, more precise controls, I mean they got all the way to this planet you think.
BURNIE: Well you can fly the ship no problem.
JOEL: Yeah.
GEOFF: I will say that Joel got to be pretty damn good at pushing all of our sheep into the ocean, which is exactly not where they’re supposed to go.
GUS: Okay. I think his- his best skill was pushing sheep into the wall.
JOEL: I was u-using the lemming-
GUS: Just over and over.
JOEL: -using the lemming strategy.
GUS: Just bring down the wall with sheep eventually.
BURNIE: Uh, I’ll put up a- I’ll put up a little clip of it eventually. Just to sh-
JOEL: Nuhhhhhh-
BURNIE: -show that I have it.
JOEL: UGHHHhhhh.
BURNIE: I’ll put a tiny little clip of it online.
JOEL: S- Please don’t.
BURNIE: Th- The- just the horror of it. It was- it was awful.
JOEL: You know the good thing was the sheep didn’t like scream everytime they hit the water, ‘cause that would really change the game.
BURNIE: I think Joel’s- Joel’s best quote in the whole thing was: “I like that they squeak.”
JOEL: Go ahead and put some post-effects on there, screaming as they hit the water.
BURNIE: I- and that thing was- that thing was like 45 minutes, I tried to edit it down to a manageable 20 minutes? Didn’t.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Just didn’t happen.
GEOFF: It wasn’t happenin’.
BURNIE: So.
GEOFF: Anyway.
JOEL: But it would be great for a Machinima series right?
BURNIE: What, a Flock Machinima series?
JOEL: Oh god, it’d be fantastic. A bunch of puffy sheep talkin’ to each other, hittin’ the water.
GEOFF: SO, enough of last week’s podcast, how ‘bout this week’s podcast?
BURNIE: Alright. Uhh, well what should we talk about this week?
GEOFF: Well I think the first thing that affected all of us that we got to talk about is that we got to go see the world IMAX premier of Star Trek the Monday night. Which was really really cool.
BURNIE: Yeah, was that the World IMAX premier, in Austin?
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: Yeah yeah, it was the first time it was ever shown in IMAX.
JOEL: We did not get Leonard Nimoy.
GEOFF: No we didn’t get the-
JOEL: At the screening.
GEOFF: -secret screening with Leonard Nemoy or David Lendoloff.
BURNIE: No, that was cool. We’ll… describe that then.
GEOFF: Yeah, we have this theatre in Austin called the Alamo Drafthouse, and they get t- they’re just- I guess you’d say very well respected in the film world? In Hollywood, and they do a lot of really cool secret stuff. And so… Uhhh, they decided and by they I guess I mean JJ Abrahms and… Leonard Nimoy and David Lendoloff, decided to secretly show Star Trek- like the World secret premier, after a showing of Wrath of Khan. That they put on.
GUS: Uh no, well they didn’t g- get through the showing of Wrath of Khan.
GEOFF: Oh they didn’t?
GUS: Th-they- they- they put it out under the guys of a Wrath of Khan screening, everyone showed up, they played about 15 minutes of Wrath of Khan and they did the whole,” Uh-oh, trouble with the reel.”
GEOFFL Awh man.
GUS: “Better show the movie.”
BURNIE: They burned the film?
GUS: Yeah the film- then Leonard Nimoy came out with- the actual- the new Star Trek movie, like,” Well let’s watch this instead!”
JOEL: And nobody knew, they all thought that they were just gonna see Wrath of Khan.
GEOFF: An- and nobody knew- eh well except some people that we knew who didn’t bother telling us. And that whole thing happened…
BURNIE: They didn’t know. They didn’t know.
GEOFF: That whole thing happened a block from our office, probably while we were over here working on some bullshit video.
GUS: Wh-
GEOFF: Y’know, like Red vs Blue, or whatever.
JOEL: It was probably the podcast that we were working on.
GEOFF: Probably.
BURNIE: Yeah, probably playing Flock.
GEOFF: But uh- a week later we got to see the movie on the IMAX, which was fantastic. What did you guys think about the film?
GUS: It was awesome.
BURNIE: That was awesome!
GUS: I-It’s uhhh…
BURNIE: Well we got into a thing w-
GEOFF: It was…
BURNIE: It’s not just Alamo that gets those things, it’s also Ain’t It cool News, Harry Knowles’ site is-
JOEL: Go-God bless him.
BURNIE: God bless him; is-is-is uhhh… Here in Austin as well? And so- I don’t think I’ve paid to go see a movie now, in the last probably year and a half because of the guys from Ain’t it Cool, like uhh Quint. Who also we- We play poker with him and he throws us free tickets all the time. Like I’ve already- I’ve already got to see Up and uhhh, and then we got to go see IMAX so… W- If we ever do get free stuff from people- we’d like t- Mazarahti. Like to throw that out there. SO we can’t thank those guys enough for, you know getting us into these screenings. But it was- it was awesome.
GUS: Yeah, I-
GEOFF: Y-Yeah.
GUS: -I- I’m gonna be a bit bold here and say that I liked it more than Dark Knight. I don’t know-
GEOFF: Really?
GUS: I don’t know if I can drop that on everyone else but…
GEOFF: Well it was a very different kind of film-
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: -Star Trek was fun and goofy and like-
JOEL: That’s thing if you can like-
GEOFF: -popcorny.
JOEL: Yeah, if you buy into the Star Trek cannon… Y’know if you love that, you’ll love the movie.
GUS: Yeah, and it didn’t drag on for 2 and a half hours like Dark Knight.
BURNIE: And we will keep this discussion spoiler free, in case you’re worried about it.
GEOFF: The casting was tremendous. That guy, Carl Urban, who played uhhh…
BURNIE: McCoy?
GEOFF: Who played McCoy?
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: Man.
BURNIE: You know in all the- in all the previews for Star Trek, I thought the guy laying McCoy was Chekov.
GUS: Yeah he looked like a Chekov to me also.
BURNIE: ‘Cause he looked like- ‘cause he looks kinda Russian right?
JOEL: And it’s his first scene, you know, and it- it instantly hit you that he was McCoy. To me.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: Wh- that- Speaking of Chekov, without giving any spoilers-
BURNIE: He’s awesome.
GEOFF: -He probably has the second funniest moment in the movie.
BURNIE: Which is- there’s a lot of funny moments in the movie.
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: A lot.
BURNIE: I mean even very, like very tense situations… i-i-it’s really funny. It keeps the humor. Th-There were times I think that maybe they went a little too far, i-in really tense situations, but, you know, overall it was great.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: It was awesome.
GUS: Good movie. Everyone should see it.
GEOFF: Absolutely.
GUS: I hope they make a- a billion dollars.
GEOFF: I do too.
BURNIE: There’s also a cool thing if you’ve got an iPhone? Uh Flash? One of the moderators on our site, who’s also a guy who gets us a ton of free movie tickets. Uhmm… He told me about these prequel comics that they have where you can buy ‘em? It’s a four part comic series. They’re like 2 bucks each, I think they’re over priced ‘cause by the time you’re done it’s 8 bucks for basically about-
JOEL: It’s like a movie ticket.
BURNIE: Ye- Yeah right. It’s- exactly, you know you’re paying eight bucks for the comic-
JOEL: Even though the production value of the comic strip was probably not as high as the movie, but…
BURNIE: I don’t think the- I don’t think the comi-
JOEL: Not grossing as much?
BURNIE: -Cost a hundred and thirty million dollars to produce. No, I think you’re probably right there.
JOEL: Well if it did, somebody’s… Somebody’s pretty happy right now.
BURNIE: But it was pretty cool, but I will say this. He kept telling me before I saw the movie to read the comics? And you should definitely not do that… Because- if there’s one thing that I would- I would criticize Star Trek for, besides some of the humor stuff would be the villain? I wasn’t too… into the villain? And I think the comic makes the villain even a little bit… Makes him confusing on top of everything else so… Y’know, messes with his motivation a little bit.
GEOFF: SO would you say the villain was the weakest part of that film?
BURNIE: Uh yeah! Well I m- I mean, I think there’s gonna be like- When I saw Indiana Jones I said- when I walked out of that movie, I said- basically there’s one thing in that movie… When it happens on screen, you’re either gonna accept it, or reject it, and I completely rejected it.
GEOFF: I rejected it too.
GUS: I don’t know anyone that accepted it.
GEOFF: No.
BURNIE: Yeah, I don’t know. W-
GEOFF: My mom did, I think.
BURNIE: There’s some people that thought that movie was fantastic, but I think there is a moment like that in Star Trek, but you’re much more likely to accept it in Star Trek.
GEOFF: Sure.
BURNIE: So, I’ll just say that. Y’know.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: I mean I’d hate to give away that they get this crystal skull from Indiana Jones, but that’s what tha-
JOEL: Well, you know it’s funny, because you say that but from my process of watching th- They lost me before that moment. But y’know.
GUS: Uhh-
GEOFF: Star Tre- Indiana Jones-
GUS: Indiana J-
GEOFF: -watched it before that?
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: I hung with it, I had faith… And then it happened.
GUS: And then there’s uh…
BURNIE: Joel’s like old people. That’s why he fell apart.
GUS: I think Harrison Ford was rude to him at a restaurant once when he was out in L.A.
BURNIE: Did that happen?
JOEL: Tha- No.
BURNIE: D’ya have any Harrison Ford stories from when-
JOEL: I don’t. I don’t. I have a Britney Spears story.
BURNIE: Let’s not tell that one.
GEOFF: I think the thing is Joel was secretly dating Calista Flockhart. And then Indiana d- Indiana Jones and his one earr-
GUS: One earring.
GEOFF: -Swooped in a fuckin’-
JOEL: That’s right.
GUS: You can’t compete with that. Gr-Grandpa with an earring?
JOEL: Can’t mess with the earring.
BURNIE: SO what uh- what else is going on in the movie world? Wolverine came out, even though it was heavily pirated, and it made how much?
GEOFF: 87 million I think.
GUS: It was adjusted to 85.
BURNIE: Do you know what J.J Abrahms said he hoped Star Trek would make in the first weekend?
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: He said he hopes it makes 50 million dollars, because… That’s realistic because the last Star Wars movie only made 40 million dollars, that’s a-
GUS: Star Trek movie.
BURNIE: Oh sorry, Star Trek- sorry. Sorry! Wow. Ha ha!
GUS: Be careful.
BURNIE: I just turned into my dad. Uhh, the last Star Trek movie, only made 40 million dollars in its total run. And that’s such bullshit. I mean…
GUS: Y-You know he’s just saying that so that… If it does bomb, he’s like,” Well you know, I was expecting it.”
BURNIE: No, he’s saying it so that when it makes 180 million dollars its opening weekend, he’ll be like,” Wow, this is great!-“
GEOFF: Din- di-
BURNIE: “-we must be really good at what we do!”
GEOFF: - Didn’t expect this. Speaking of which-
GUS: J-Johnathan Frake’s at home gritting his teeth.
GEOFF: Aw, he’s probably-
GUS: Pu-Punching his pillow.
GEOFF: Johnathan Frake’s probably hanging the noose right now.
BURNIE: Why do you think he’s hanging the- hanging himself? Because he knows the Star Trek next generation movies are over?
GEOFF: Oh yeah.
BURNIE: Or he knows he’s never going to back into another directing job on Star Trek. Which one do you think it is?
GEOFF: All of the above.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: By the way, I think technically you were right. I think the last Star Wars movie only made 40 million, if you count the Clone Wars as a Star Wars movie.
BURNIE: The last Star Wars movie?
GEOFF: Yeah, Clone Wars. Theatrically released.
BURNIE: Oh that’s true.
JOEL: Cartoon?
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Yeah.
JOEL: Yeah.
GUS: I’m gonna look it up.
BURNIE: Did you see it?
GEOFF: Gus is gonna look it up right now.
BURNIE: Joel?
JOEL: I did not.
BURNIE: Gus did you see S- Clone Wars in theatres?
GUS: No, no.
GEOFF: No, I haven’t seen it.
BURNIE: I did.
GEOFF: How was it.
JOEL: How was i- yeah.
BURNIE: It felt like exactly what it was. It felt like the first 3 episodes of a television series, and that’s what you saw.
GEOFF: Hmm, yeah.
GUS: D-D-Domestic gross: 35 million dollars.
GEOFF: There you go.
BURNIE: I have- I have seen every single one of those Star Wars Clone Wars that are on Cartoon Network, I have seen every single one.
GEOFF: Yeah?
BURNIE: I’m- I’m… I’m not doin’ well. I’m not doin’ well.
JOEL: I-It gets to the point with Star Wars where everytime I wa- e-e-i-w- a long time ago, where you start watching and then it’s like okay the guy jumps from and lands sp- and this a th- that, y’know, at some point you start thinking to yourself some point I’m gonna have to do that in a videogame. At some point I’m gonna have to do that in a videogame. That looks hard.
BURNIE: Yeah, Force Unleashed was a good Star Wars release. And C- Blew away Clone Wars, y’know, the videogame, I’m talkin’ about.
JOEL: Yeah.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Yeah, Clone Wars, they introduced this little girl character there which is uhh Ankin’s apprentice? And it’s just… Eughhh, it’s so hard. Especially when they have such cool characters they don’t use. Y’know, they take awesome characters like Darth Maul, spoiler, and kill ‘em, y’know, almost right away, you know, they gave Boba Fett a horrible death… Which I c- I read later that-
GEOFF: Supposedly he didn’t die or whatever.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: He didn’t die, yeah he-
GEOFF: Hey speaking of spoilers, should we uhhh, we’re trying to keep this one short. Should we segue to Spoiler Alert?
BURNIE: Yeah, yeah, don’t get me started on the Clone Wars stuff, I’ll go forever.
GEOFF: We can spend the next 4 hours talkin’ about Star Wars.
BURNIE: Yeah.
JOEL: And there’s been great debate about this office about… You know, should we spoil things in Star Trek or not.
BURNIE: Yeah, well there was that de- yeah there was.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Uh, Geoff I’m assuming you’re about to mention Joel and Matt’s video, Spoiler Alert.
GEOFF: Yeah! Spoiler Alert.
BURNIE: Yeah. Well there’s uh… they put out that video, which was great, Joel. Y’all did a great job on that.
GEOFF: Very well received on the internet. Internet said “yay”.
JOEL: Well that’s everybody, I mean everybody worked on, everybody- it’s… you know.
GEOFF: That is true.
BURNIE: It’s like an acceptance speech.
JOEL: I’d like to thank Gus. Uhh…
GEOFF: It had like a stunning cameo by me in it. As well.
JOEL: And I love-
GEOFF: Carryin’ my bags of ice.
JOEL: -I love that people got that.
GEOFF: Yeah I did too, it was cool.
GUS: I love the guys who said uhh they saw Burnie carrying ice in the background of the video.
BURNIE: How’d that make you feel Geoff? Making that mistake.
GEOFF: Old n- old and fat.
JOEL: MAN. That camera really does add 40 pounds!
GEOFF: Somebody also asked if I was Adam Sessler, which is even more insulting.
BURNIE: Adam Sessler?
GUS: Wow.
BURNIE: Who the fuck made an Adam Sessler reference?
GEOFF: Some kid on the site.
BURNIE: Wow. Wow. We’re really uhh, we’re really punchin’ up the references here with Johnathan Frakes and Adam Sessler. Okay.
GUS: I guess maybe I should- I should write down the- the URLs for that, imdB profiles, so people know who they are. That’d be useful. My wife watched that Spoiler Alert vide and said that she thought Matt’s… style, Matt’s delivery was a lot like Michael Cera.
GEOFF: Really?
BURNIE: Nah, I don’t know.
JOEL: Who’s that?
GEOFF: I don’t see that at all.
GUS: He’s the… kid from Superbad, like the skinny guy?
BURNIE: I-
GEOFF: Fuck stammering kid.
BURNIE: Fuck this, enough complimenting.
GEOFF: The Michael Cera.
BURNIE: Fuck that. We’re done- we’re done complimenting ourselves.
GUS: Th-That’s the imdB profile. Shit, I gotta write all these down. Okay wh-who was it uhhh, it was-
JOEL: Hey Michael.
BURNIE: It was a big debate in the- in the video, we put up a couple URLs, and wealways have this habit of whenever we put a URL in any video, we instantly register it.
GEOFF: Absolutely.
BURNIE: Doesn’t matter what it is.
GEOFF: We even own- for instance, Captain Incredible with an E.
BURNIE: Yes.
GEOFF: From the Captain Dynamic series.
BURNIE: Yeah, I think Captain Slippery was taken.
GEOFF: Yeah?
BURNIE: Just like yeah. That’s the truth mirroring art. But uhh… So we grabbed the domains that we put up in the Spoiler Alert video, and we thought it’d be funny for the people who registered domains underneath us all the time? Uhh, ‘cause there’s a lot of people who when they watch the videos will just instantly go out and grab those videos, we thought about putting up a whole bunch of Star Trek spoilers. Like Mad had made this site, and put up a bunch of spoilers for Star Trek, and it was a big debate whether or not to do that, and I was the guy who said absolutely not.
GUS: I actually- I actually pushed it live for about 5 minutes yesterday and if you went to zellnerteeth.com for- in that 5 minute yesterday, you had the Star Trek movie spoiled for you. And then uhm-
JOEL: Wh-what are we doing right now. We’re trying to chase people away from our URLs, is that what we’re doing?
BURNIE: Well that’s not- I mean- I mean those sites we don’t do anything with them, like we have donutcamkissesforever.
GEOFF: smole.com
BURNIE: smole.com
JOEL: And uhm, Gus probably has some entertaining stories…
GEOFF: Uhh, we have presidentialsluts.com, right?
GUS: Awh right. And then every- everytime we register these domains- You know we have a lot of them, we also have like dickfartvaginabutt.com and uhh… You know we host our own primary DNS, this is a little technical. And anytime we register these domains, I have to send an e-mail to our h- to our co-location facility asking them t- do slave secondary DNS? So I have to write e-mails that are like, ”Dear host master: can you please slave dickfartvaginabutt.com on my primary DNS server? And I had to ask him to do g- what? Gaysnapekills- no, straightsnapekillsgaydumbledore.com this week? It’s-it’s always fun, I-I-I won- I wonder what the look on that dude’s face is whenever he sees the e-mail i-inbox from me. What is it this time.
BURNIE: You know, Joel- uh Joel you probably have the same thought process as I do now, where I’m just gonna build on URLs-
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: -that make Gus register them now.
GEOFF: Make the most offensive URL as possible.
JOEL: Exactly.
BURNIE: Like uh…
JOEL: We need to start personalizing. Put Gus’ name in the URL s-
BURNIE: Like trannysailormoon.com that’s gonna be the next one. G- Gus’diary.com. See now we have to re- register these because I mentioned them. Alright, so let’s talk about the world of video games that- or- or since we’re talking about site stuff with Spoiler Alert, do we wanna talk about anything else that’s going on on the site?
GEOFF: Uhmmm…
BURNIE: We did Open ID this week, Gus do you wanna- Do you want to explain why we did Open ID?
GUS: Open ID- It’s-it’s a system that allows people to create accounts from our site with some information prepopulated. So, let’s say you have a Facebook account or a m- I’m not sure all the participating sites are, but I’ll use Facebook as an example, because I know that they’re one of the participating sites. You have a Facebook account, you come to our site, you can click I have a Facebook account, I want to sign-up. You click that, and it automatically creates an account for you with your Facebook avatar and your real name as a username, but you can change that.
BURNIE: Now I want to clarify something about this. It’s not a Facebook uhhh, it’s not a Facebook account or a-a-uh Myspace account. Open ID is the overriding thing here.
GUS: Right, it’s like a unified authentication system that all these sites use.
BURNIE: Right, and what this is is this something the internet- we’ve had a social site now for about 4 or 5 years, and this is something I think everyone kind of wants, which is like a unified global ID that they can use for anything, so you don’t have to constantly make accounts on stuff.
GUS: Well it makes sense, like people like me. I’ve got like, 10 e-mail addresses.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: I don’t know what the fuck I signed up with.
BURNIE: Right. Exactly.
JOEL: And so what is the #1 complaint against that that you’ve heard and w-w…
BURNIE: Well I know I… The number 1 complaint is that people are using it t- people could use it to make duplicate accounts.
JOEL: Right, and why is that invalid?
BURNIE: Well that- No it’s- that’s actually our fault because we kind of fucked up in that when we put it up, we put it up as “sign-in on RoosterTeeth” with your Rooster Teeth ID, “sign-up for a RoosterTeeth ID”, or “sign-in using one of your other accounts”. And the reason that Facebook or Myspace are listed are ‘cause those are currently the big players. If this thing had come around 5 years ago, it would’ve been like Geocities and Yahoo and all that stuff right? So, we made a mistake in we put it up as sign-up as one of those accounts- or sign-in with one of those accounts, and it shoulda said “sign-up”.
GUS: It was just- I was just a verbage problem.
BURNIE: Yeah!
GUS: The wording was a little confusing… Nice ringtone. We went through and uh tried to adjust it a bit, and it’s a- it’s a lot clearer now.
BURNIE: Normally what we do with any of these features, now, is that we push them out to sponsors first, right? And then we test them for a week, work out the little kinks, and then roll them out to the entire site. Obviously, if we have a sign-in thing we can’t tie it to the sponsors, so that only the sponsors can see it, ‘cause the site doesn’t know you’re a sponsor ‘till you’ve signed in. So, this is kind of something we had to push out there, see how it works, see the problems with it, and then make some changes really quickly. Which is what we did.
GUS: I-I can read you a quick list of the- of the uhh… th-
GEOFF: Participating…
GUS: -of the Open ID.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: It’s uhh Google, Windows Live ID, Facebook, Yahoo, Open ID, Myspace ID, Flickr, Wordpress, My Open ID, AOL, Livejournal and Blogger.
BURNIE: A- And you know what, it doesn’t- it doesn’t matter a bit, right, because it doesn’t matter who’s using it now, it’s just clear that this in the future is what people are going to use. So when y’know, Beebop.org comes out, and everyone’s on beebop.org ten years from now, you’ll have your Open ID, and it’ll be important- it’s a future proofing thing. Y’know? And so it t- it just makes sense for us to use it because in the future, a lot more people are going to have an Open ID account, and it’s a good open standard, it’s what you want the internet to be, you know? You don’t want the internet to be these five sites like Facebook or Myspace or plffhh, whatever’s comin’ out. You kno-
GEOFF: Just makes your life a little bit easier.
BURNIE: Yeah, exactly right. Exactly right.
GUS: Yeah, like I was… I signed up for the Battlefield Heroes beta the other day, and uhmmm… like I had to sign in with an EA profile I didn’t know I had made.
BURNIE: Right.
GUS: And I don’t even remember which e-mail it was.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: And if they use Open ID, or great example of something we all do, that w- I wished used Open ID is Xbox Live. Every time I go to recover a damn account, it’s like, “What e-mail address did I use?”
JOEL: Yeah.
BURNIE: A-And, your Open ID, as long as you know that ID, you can change everything else behind it, like e-mail addresses- I can’t update my e-mail address on Xbox Live!
GUS: I will say this: Windows Live ID was listed- is listed as one of the participating Open ID uhh sites.
BURNIE: Are they?
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: Okay, great.
GUS: So uh th-there’s probably a way to do that.
BURNIE: But I know Xbox Live and Live, they tie directly to your e-mail address. My e-mail address for my gamertag is like 6 e-mail addresses ago.
GUS: Oh yeah, I see. Yeah, like I used a Hotmail account when I set up my Xbox Live, ‘cause I figured it was Microsoft, I wanted it to keep it all the same, so that’s why… I-I can change I guess like that.
BURNIE: This is normally- w- I want to bring up the one thing in my life that Gus is envious of, is the fact that I was in the Xbox Live beta group? And I-
GUS: Yeah… Fuck you.
BURNIE: I have my special memory card.
GUS: Well I got in the beta group later than you, like I got in the beta group too, but it was like way past the- when they were just giving it away to everyone.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: And it- you know I never registered “Burnie”, I registered “buzzbee” back then.
GUS: You probably would’ve been able to get it back then.
BURNIE: I couldn’t’ve, ‘cause I found the guy- that the guy who has Burnie is actually on the Live Launch Team. Anyway… So, that’s why- that’s why we’ve instituted this Open ID thing. If you’re an existing member of Rooster Teeth, you can tie any of your other accounts now into your Rooster Teeth account.
GUS: It’s in the “Edit Profile” section.
BURNIE: It doesn’t do anything except for log in. Like it won’t- it won’t tie your Facebook to your RoosterTeeth, it won’t put updates on one or the other. I know people like to keep that stuff separate, I certainly do. Uhh, it’s just a way to log in. That’s all it is. So if you already have a Rooster Teeth account you don’t need to do anything, y’know, it’s just for people coming to the site in the future, and allows them to easily log in. Like tha- that… People say, “Well how long can it possibly take to sign up for an account?” It doesn’t matter. The fact that it takes time keeps people from doing it.
JOEL: Humanity cannot move forward as a species, until we have those Open ID and everybody is using it. It’s taking too much time to-
GUS: It was- it-
JOEL: -go and remember everything?
GUS: It- it was a vital plot point in Star Trek.
JOEL: It was!
BURNIE: Don’t say that. Spoiler free.
GUS: Spoiler.
GEOFF: Well hey, keeping the podcast moving, you mentioned Battlefield Heroes?
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: Uhh, you so far are the only one of us to my knowledge that has played it, but I watched over your shoulder for a bit, what do you wanna give some impressions?
GUS: Uhhh-
JOEL: It looked great.
GUS: -First of all, I was a little upset that there was not a Mac version.
GEOFF: Yeeaaahhh…
GUS: Uh we- We’re pretty much are all Mac in the office now. Burnie luckily has his uhh, his Dell out there.
BURNIE: yes, that’s right!
GUS: One of only 2 Windows machines in the office so.
GEOFF: I guess Mac-Gamer parody video we did 6 years ago has finally come back to bite us in the ass.
GUS: Yeah, no shit.
JOEL: Full circle.
GUS: Yeah, uhh so you download it. It’s uh- it-it took a little while to set up, but… It seems okay.
GEOFF: Yeah?
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: Did you have fun playing it?
GUS: It’s… It’s kind of fun, I mean I-I… It’s a free game so you can’t complain.
GEOFF: It looked like Team Fortress 2 and Battlefield 1942 merged, which sounds cool.
GUS: It’s kinda like the… Th- I have some concerns about it, I feel like it takes forever to kill people. Like… I have a machine gun and I’m shooting someone in the face, I could shoot them for 45 seconds before they die.
GEOFF: Really?
BURNIE: I’m- I-I-I only played it for 5 minutes, but I gotta say I was not overly impressed by it. I also didn’t see anyone in a vehicle.
GUS: hmm, yeah yeah I thought that was weird, the map you were in didn’t have any vehicles.
BURNIE: Okay, may- t-to me that’s a big part of Battlefield is, they were the first people to get the “get in a tank, get in a plane”, do whatever you want to thing right.
GUS: I feel the airplane controls are kinda sluggish and weird in that game too.
BURNIE: uh, I can tell you the FPS controls are sluggish and weird from what I played. And I said- I said while I was sitting there playing and Gus was watching over my shoulder, I said, “This computer has Steam on it, why wouldn’t we just go out and buy Team Fortress 2?” And you two made the argument, Geoff and Gus, “Well this is a free game.” You know, 20 bucks is… There’s not much distance between free and 20 bucks for most people, you know what I mean? I-If it’s something you’re gonna play for a hundred hours, y’know, or pick up and play? Y’know, I-I would just buy Team Fortress 2.
GUS: Free is free.
BURNIE: Free is free. Right. I mean it’s nice. And the cool thing about it too, maybe on a computer you’re not on, you could just sit down, y’know, and just go to the URL, you know, if you move around a lot especially if you’re at school or something like that-
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: -it’s like a pick up and go game.
GEOFF: Also-
GUS: It’s weird- it’s weird how you log in. It’s kinda like all browser based, you go to like a website and hit play now. There’s no actually client you launch on your desktop.
BURNIE: And we-
JOEL: I love that.
BURNIE: We just saw- we just saw on somebody’s Twitter who we know uhh who works at Blizzard that they’re now signing up for the Starcraft 2 beta.
GUS: Yes.
BURNIE: Are you gonna do it Gus?
GUS: Already did it.
BURNIE: Alright.
GUS: I think uhh, you go to Battle.net? Uhhh let me look it up.
BURNIE: It’s Battlenet right?
GEOFF: Yeah- y-y- you go into your settings in like Battlenet and uhhh…
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: … make yourself eligible? Or something?
GUS: There’s a beta profile.
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: Uhh I’ll go and- we’ll put a link up for it, with uhh, with this podcast.
GEOFF: but the one thing that’s nice about uhhh a game like Battlefield Heroes being free is that we can very easily do tournaments of it on the site.
BURNIE: Yeah. That is true.
GEOFF: That’s something that everybody has access to, so… ‘Cause the complaint I always hear about our s- about tournaments are, “Oh, I don’t have a 360, how am I supposed to play in the tournament.”
BURNIE: That’s not a complaint really, it’s just people-
GEOFF: Not that you have to fucking buy a 360-
BURNIE: -want to point out to you.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Like, hey we’re having a Halo tournament tonight, and they want to comment,” Great, I don’t have Halo.”
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Well then don’t… Don’t comment!
GUS: We’ll- we’ll send you a copy!
BURNIE: Commenting is not mandatory, you don’t have to comment, and tell us that you DON’T have 360, or you DON’T have Halo. It’s like, if you don’t show up, we’ll get it. We w- We will understand that you couldn’t be there for whatever reason. It’s like w-ge- Whenever Gus… I love to go to your comments whenever you post a tech question? Like: “Hey, I’m configuring these two ser- these two servers…”
JOEL: And you get like 30 comments that are all like,” Sorry.”
BURNIE: “I can’t help.”
JOEL: “No idea what you’re talking about right now.”
GEOFF: “I don’t even know what a server is.”
GUS: It’s the worst thing in the world. “I wish I had a server.”
GEOFF: ”Must be nice.” So we talked about Flock-
BURNIE: N-W- No, while we’re on the topic of videogames. We talked about, uhh Battlefield Heroes and stuff that’s in beta. Should we give a quick moment of silence for 3D Realms?
GEOFF: Ohhhhhhh, yeah.
BURNIE: Who just closed yesterday, and who Duke Nukem Forever is apparently not gonna come out?
GUS: Well what I’m most concerned about is, what is Wired going to name as Vaporware of the year this year now?
GEOFF: God.
BURNIE: Thank god it’s off the list, right?
GUS: I mean, yeah, it’s been like 13 years, it’s like an institution.
GEOFF: Gus sent me an image last night of a Game Stop pre-order receipt from 2001. Somebody had made.
BURNIE: Yeah that’s uhhh, what is it? Silent00?
GUS: It was like Slash000 is a patient man.
BURNIE: Right. God. I mean I wasn’t- honestly, I didn’t give a crap about that game. I mean, it’s y’know… To me Serious Sam is name a better version of Duke Nukem than Duke Nukem ever was.
GUS: Serious Sam has come, made like 2 sequels, and gone. I’ve forgotten about that game!
GEOFF: Yeah, it’s crazy.
GUS: When was the last time they made a Serious Sam game? That was like … 6 years ago!
GEOFF: Wow.
BURNIE: That site that has the list of everything that’s happened since Duke Nukem announced and has been in development? It’s crazy the amount of stuff that’s come out since then.
GUS: U-
BURNIE: It’s all 3 Star Wars prequels have come out. Uh, all the entire Matrix trilogy, the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy? Everything that’s come out while Duke Nukem’s been-
GEOFF: Probably every Harry Potter movie?
GUS: Yeah definitely.
BURNIE: Probably Harry Potter.
GEOFF: Pro-probably, maybe Harry Potter.
BURNIE: As a book.
GUS: I-I looked the DOW- Wh-when it was announced the DOW was at 57 hundred.
BURNIE: Oh wow.
GEOFF & JOEL: WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
BURNIE: We actually haven’t come that far…
GUS: We went really far and then we came back.
JOEL: That’s crazy.
GEOFF: Jesus.
BURNIE: I love how the financial thing gets a rise out of you guys. But anyway, they’re- they’re… Duke Nukem is dead, it joins the ranks of stuff like Phantom, and every other piece of Vaporware-
GUS: Wh-It was 13 years, it was announced in ’96?
BURNIE: ’97 they said, yeah.
GUS: ’97… So ’97-
GEOFF: It was before any of us knew each other.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: I was in my 7th year of college.
GEOFF: Just before- like we met in ’98, ’99, somewhere around there.
GUS: Yeah, we were busy dropping out!
JOEL: W-we-we just wrapped The Schedule.
BURNIE: Yeah, we had just finished making The Schedule. Joel and I. So.
JOEL: May-maybe even a year earlier.
BURNIE: Yeah. That’s crazy.
GEOFF: I was probably in Kuwait. In the army, jesus. That’s a long-
JOEL: Hey-
GEOFF: -ass time ago.
JOEL: Geoff, are you enjoying playing Wolverine are we allo- are we allowed to talk about that?
GEOFF: Wolverine?
BURNIE: Wolverine’s out?
GUS: Yeah Wolverine’s out.
GEOFF: Wolverine’s been out for a week.
JOEL: See, I can’t even tell. I- Is anyone going to see-
BURNIE: Joel is playing a game right now for something we’re working on for a television commercial? I WISH we could talk about that game.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: That game is fucking awesome dude! But we definitely- later in a later podcast if we bring up this game again-
GUS: We won’t talk about it.
BURNIE: -This game is-
JOEL: The gameplay’s a lot of fun.
BURNIE: OH MY GOD IT’S GREAT! By the way…
GEOFF: It’s- I wish I could even describe like- ‘cause it’s like 2 things put together, but I don’t even want to mention that to give it a clue but, yeah Joel’s working on a- like a commercial for it I guess. And the reason you’re asking about the Wolverine thing is ‘cause you made the TV Spots for the Wolverine commercial right?
JOEL: W- We did- hopefully that’s-
GEOFF: Some of it.
JOEL: -came off okay, but di-did anyone going to see the movie?
GEOFF: Uhmmm I-
BURNIE: N- I haven’t seen-
GEOFF: Yeah, I don’t know. It’s hard- I’d like to.
GUS: Wasn’t planning on it.
BURNIE: You know-
GEOFF: I probably will.
BURNIE: -I gotta say movie theatres right now are the only thing to me that’s like registering on that like Swine Flu paranoia level-
GEOFF: Hm.
BURNIE: -for me like… I don’t want to go sit in a movie theatre with a bunch of random people, I just don’t want to do it.
JOEL: You know, I-I- I just-
GEOFF: Is it because of that scene in Outbreak?
GEOFF: Hey, I am Geoff Ramsey.
GUS: Gus Sorola!
JOEL: Joel Heyman.
BURNIE: The sound of that mic being moved around is Geoff, who had probably about what? 45 minutes to move your mic around?
GEOFF: To prepare my mic and the last second I decided to uhh…
BURNIE: And you waited until we actually hit record, and then starts yankin’ on the mic. So how’s everybody doin’?
GEOFF: Awesome.
GUS: Great!
JOEL: Faaantastic.
BURNIE: Yeahaha, bu-
GUS: It’s bright and early and we’re all super energetic now. It’s not like one of those lazy afternoon podcasts.
GEOFF: So I think th- Speaking of lazy afternoon podcasts, the first thing we should probably address is why there wasn’t a podcast last week.
BURNIE: I was gonna ask.
GEOFF: Wh-When in effect there was a podcast last week that did not get released.
BURNIE: How- How’s everyone doing from that? Podcast last week.
GUS: Terrible. Terrible. I mean… W-We decided we were gonna make a video podcast of us tryna play co-op Flock? Was- that was the name of the game right? I had never seen it-
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Yes.
GUS: -before then and uhh…
BURNIE: It’s- it’s a game on Xbox Live where you use a saucer, spaceship and you-
JOEL: And you.. herd popcorn.
BURNIE: You herd- you herd little puffy sheep, and cows and all that and how did it go?
GUS: It was miserable.
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: That game was terrible! I m- I can’t believe that’s a game!
BURNIE: It was like a torture podcast.
GEOFF: It was.
GUS: People ask if we’re y’know, paid for product placement. You can tell this is a- you can definitely tell this is not the case now.
GEOFF: Thanks, Crapcom.
BURNIE: Aha yeah. Capcom- I think it was a port from either a PC game or a PS3 game they decided to throw out there on Xbox Live Arcade. And I brought it in ‘cause we had fun being lousy at Left 4 Dead. I thought “let’s take a lousy game and play a bad game and all be miserable”? And it just was like… 40 minutes of SHIT.
GUS: Yeah. I think eventually we gave up and just gave Joel the controller and made fun of him tryna play the game.
JOEL: Yea I’m really glad that didn’t come out.
GEOFF: Yeah. There were like 2 entertaining minutes of us watching Joel by himself try’ta play but… it wasn’t worth the 38 minutes wrapped around it.
BURNIE: Basically the game… w-b… Boils down to… Here’s a cute game with horrible controls.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: And like, you have to like- It’s almost like trying to like- Imagine a game where you had 2 like charged magnets and you push one magnet around the table with the other one and that’s it.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: Except the other magnet… it just inconsistently will fly off the table and kill somebody.
JOEL: And you’re thinking the aliens would have better like, more precise controls, I mean they got all the way to this planet you think.
BURNIE: Well you can fly the ship no problem.
JOEL: Yeah.
GEOFF: I will say that Joel got to be pretty damn good at pushing all of our sheep into the ocean, which is exactly not where they’re supposed to go.
GUS: Okay. I think his- his best skill was pushing sheep into the wall.
JOEL: I was u-using the lemming-
GUS: Just over and over.
JOEL: -using the lemming strategy.
GUS: Just bring down the wall with sheep eventually.
BURNIE: Uh, I’ll put up a- I’ll put up a little clip of it eventually. Just to sh-
JOEL: Nuhhhhhh-
BURNIE: -show that I have it.
JOEL: UGHHHhhhh.
BURNIE: I’ll put a tiny little clip of it online.
JOEL: S- Please don’t.
BURNIE: Th- The- just the horror of it. It was- it was awful.
JOEL: You know the good thing was the sheep didn’t like scream everytime they hit the water, ‘cause that would really change the game.
BURNIE: I think Joel’s- Joel’s best quote in the whole thing was: “I like that they squeak.”
JOEL: Go ahead and put some post-effects on there, screaming as they hit the water.
BURNIE: I- and that thing was- that thing was like 45 minutes, I tried to edit it down to a manageable 20 minutes? Didn’t.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Just didn’t happen.
GEOFF: It wasn’t happenin’.
BURNIE: So.
GEOFF: Anyway.
JOEL: But it would be great for a Machinima series right?
BURNIE: What, a Flock Machinima series?
JOEL: Oh god, it’d be fantastic. A bunch of puffy sheep talkin’ to each other, hittin’ the water.
GEOFF: SO, enough of last week’s podcast, how ‘bout this week’s podcast?
BURNIE: Alright. Uhh, well what should we talk about this week?
GEOFF: Well I think the first thing that affected all of us that we got to talk about is that we got to go see the world IMAX premier of Star Trek the Monday night. Which was really really cool.
BURNIE: Yeah, was that the World IMAX premier, in Austin?
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: Yeah yeah, it was the first time it was ever shown in IMAX.
JOEL: We did not get Leonard Nimoy.
GEOFF: No we didn’t get the-
JOEL: At the screening.
GEOFF: -secret screening with Leonard Nemoy or David Lendoloff.
BURNIE: No, that was cool. We’ll… describe that then.
GEOFF: Yeah, we have this theatre in Austin called the Alamo Drafthouse, and they get t- they’re just- I guess you’d say very well respected in the film world? In Hollywood, and they do a lot of really cool secret stuff. And so… Uhhh, they decided and by they I guess I mean JJ Abrahms and… Leonard Nimoy and David Lendoloff, decided to secretly show Star Trek- like the World secret premier, after a showing of Wrath of Khan. That they put on.
GUS: Uh no, well they didn’t g- get through the showing of Wrath of Khan.
GEOFF: Oh they didn’t?
GUS: Th-they- they- they put it out under the guys of a Wrath of Khan screening, everyone showed up, they played about 15 minutes of Wrath of Khan and they did the whole,” Uh-oh, trouble with the reel.”
GEOFFL Awh man.
GUS: “Better show the movie.”
BURNIE: They burned the film?
GUS: Yeah the film- then Leonard Nimoy came out with- the actual- the new Star Trek movie, like,” Well let’s watch this instead!”
JOEL: And nobody knew, they all thought that they were just gonna see Wrath of Khan.
GEOFF: An- and nobody knew- eh well except some people that we knew who didn’t bother telling us. And that whole thing happened…
BURNIE: They didn’t know. They didn’t know.
GEOFF: That whole thing happened a block from our office, probably while we were over here working on some bullshit video.
GUS: Wh-
GEOFF: Y’know, like Red vs Blue, or whatever.
JOEL: It was probably the podcast that we were working on.
GEOFF: Probably.
BURNIE: Yeah, probably playing Flock.
GEOFF: But uh- a week later we got to see the movie on the IMAX, which was fantastic. What did you guys think about the film?
GUS: It was awesome.
BURNIE: That was awesome!
GUS: I-It’s uhhh…
BURNIE: Well we got into a thing w-
GEOFF: It was…
BURNIE: It’s not just Alamo that gets those things, it’s also Ain’t It cool News, Harry Knowles’ site is-
JOEL: Go-God bless him.
BURNIE: God bless him; is-is-is uhhh… Here in Austin as well? And so- I don’t think I’ve paid to go see a movie now, in the last probably year and a half because of the guys from Ain’t it Cool, like uhh Quint. Who also we- We play poker with him and he throws us free tickets all the time. Like I’ve already- I’ve already got to see Up and uhhh, and then we got to go see IMAX so… W- If we ever do get free stuff from people- we’d like t- Mazarahti. Like to throw that out there. SO we can’t thank those guys enough for, you know getting us into these screenings. But it was- it was awesome.
GUS: Yeah, I-
GEOFF: Y-Yeah.
GUS: -I- I’m gonna be a bit bold here and say that I liked it more than Dark Knight. I don’t know-
GEOFF: Really?
GUS: I don’t know if I can drop that on everyone else but…
GEOFF: Well it was a very different kind of film-
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: -Star Trek was fun and goofy and like-
JOEL: That’s thing if you can like-
GEOFF: -popcorny.
JOEL: Yeah, if you buy into the Star Trek cannon… Y’know if you love that, you’ll love the movie.
GUS: Yeah, and it didn’t drag on for 2 and a half hours like Dark Knight.
BURNIE: And we will keep this discussion spoiler free, in case you’re worried about it.
GEOFF: The casting was tremendous. That guy, Carl Urban, who played uhhh…
BURNIE: McCoy?
GEOFF: Who played McCoy?
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: Man.
BURNIE: You know in all the- in all the previews for Star Trek, I thought the guy laying McCoy was Chekov.
GUS: Yeah he looked like a Chekov to me also.
BURNIE: ‘Cause he looked like- ‘cause he looks kinda Russian right?
JOEL: And it’s his first scene, you know, and it- it instantly hit you that he was McCoy. To me.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: Wh- that- Speaking of Chekov, without giving any spoilers-
BURNIE: He’s awesome.
GEOFF: -He probably has the second funniest moment in the movie.
BURNIE: Which is- there’s a lot of funny moments in the movie.
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: A lot.
BURNIE: I mean even very, like very tense situations… i-i-it’s really funny. It keeps the humor. Th-There were times I think that maybe they went a little too far, i-in really tense situations, but, you know, overall it was great.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: It was awesome.
GUS: Good movie. Everyone should see it.
GEOFF: Absolutely.
GUS: I hope they make a- a billion dollars.
GEOFF: I do too.
BURNIE: There’s also a cool thing if you’ve got an iPhone? Uh Flash? One of the moderators on our site, who’s also a guy who gets us a ton of free movie tickets. Uhmm… He told me about these prequel comics that they have where you can buy ‘em? It’s a four part comic series. They’re like 2 bucks each, I think they’re over priced ‘cause by the time you’re done it’s 8 bucks for basically about-
JOEL: It’s like a movie ticket.
BURNIE: Ye- Yeah right. It’s- exactly, you know you’re paying eight bucks for the comic-
JOEL: Even though the production value of the comic strip was probably not as high as the movie, but…
BURNIE: I don’t think the- I don’t think the comi-
JOEL: Not grossing as much?
BURNIE: -Cost a hundred and thirty million dollars to produce. No, I think you’re probably right there.
JOEL: Well if it did, somebody’s… Somebody’s pretty happy right now.
BURNIE: But it was pretty cool, but I will say this. He kept telling me before I saw the movie to read the comics? And you should definitely not do that… Because- if there’s one thing that I would- I would criticize Star Trek for, besides some of the humor stuff would be the villain? I wasn’t too… into the villain? And I think the comic makes the villain even a little bit… Makes him confusing on top of everything else so… Y’know, messes with his motivation a little bit.
GEOFF: SO would you say the villain was the weakest part of that film?
BURNIE: Uh yeah! Well I m- I mean, I think there’s gonna be like- When I saw Indiana Jones I said- when I walked out of that movie, I said- basically there’s one thing in that movie… When it happens on screen, you’re either gonna accept it, or reject it, and I completely rejected it.
GEOFF: I rejected it too.
GUS: I don’t know anyone that accepted it.
GEOFF: No.
BURNIE: Yeah, I don’t know. W-
GEOFF: My mom did, I think.
BURNIE: There’s some people that thought that movie was fantastic, but I think there is a moment like that in Star Trek, but you’re much more likely to accept it in Star Trek.
GEOFF: Sure.
BURNIE: So, I’ll just say that. Y’know.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: I mean I’d hate to give away that they get this crystal skull from Indiana Jones, but that’s what tha-
JOEL: Well, you know it’s funny, because you say that but from my process of watching th- They lost me before that moment. But y’know.
GUS: Uhh-
GEOFF: Star Tre- Indiana Jones-
GUS: Indiana J-
GEOFF: -watched it before that?
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: I hung with it, I had faith… And then it happened.
GUS: And then there’s uh…
BURNIE: Joel’s like old people. That’s why he fell apart.
GUS: I think Harrison Ford was rude to him at a restaurant once when he was out in L.A.
BURNIE: Did that happen?
JOEL: Tha- No.
BURNIE: D’ya have any Harrison Ford stories from when-
JOEL: I don’t. I don’t. I have a Britney Spears story.
BURNIE: Let’s not tell that one.
GEOFF: I think the thing is Joel was secretly dating Calista Flockhart. And then Indiana d- Indiana Jones and his one earr-
GUS: One earring.
GEOFF: -Swooped in a fuckin’-
JOEL: That’s right.
GUS: You can’t compete with that. Gr-Grandpa with an earring?
JOEL: Can’t mess with the earring.
BURNIE: SO what uh- what else is going on in the movie world? Wolverine came out, even though it was heavily pirated, and it made how much?
GEOFF: 87 million I think.
GUS: It was adjusted to 85.
BURNIE: Do you know what J.J Abrahms said he hoped Star Trek would make in the first weekend?
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: He said he hopes it makes 50 million dollars, because… That’s realistic because the last Star Wars movie only made 40 million dollars, that’s a-
GUS: Star Trek movie.
BURNIE: Oh sorry, Star Trek- sorry. Sorry! Wow. Ha ha!
GUS: Be careful.
BURNIE: I just turned into my dad. Uhh, the last Star Trek movie, only made 40 million dollars in its total run. And that’s such bullshit. I mean…
GUS: Y-You know he’s just saying that so that… If it does bomb, he’s like,” Well you know, I was expecting it.”
BURNIE: No, he’s saying it so that when it makes 180 million dollars its opening weekend, he’ll be like,” Wow, this is great!-“
GEOFF: Din- di-
BURNIE: “-we must be really good at what we do!”
GEOFF: - Didn’t expect this. Speaking of which-
GUS: J-Johnathan Frake’s at home gritting his teeth.
GEOFF: Aw, he’s probably-
GUS: Pu-Punching his pillow.
GEOFF: Johnathan Frake’s probably hanging the noose right now.
BURNIE: Why do you think he’s hanging the- hanging himself? Because he knows the Star Trek next generation movies are over?
GEOFF: Oh yeah.
BURNIE: Or he knows he’s never going to back into another directing job on Star Trek. Which one do you think it is?
GEOFF: All of the above.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: By the way, I think technically you were right. I think the last Star Wars movie only made 40 million, if you count the Clone Wars as a Star Wars movie.
BURNIE: The last Star Wars movie?
GEOFF: Yeah, Clone Wars. Theatrically released.
BURNIE: Oh that’s true.
JOEL: Cartoon?
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Yeah.
JOEL: Yeah.
GUS: I’m gonna look it up.
BURNIE: Did you see it?
GEOFF: Gus is gonna look it up right now.
BURNIE: Joel?
JOEL: I did not.
BURNIE: Gus did you see S- Clone Wars in theatres?
GUS: No, no.
GEOFF: No, I haven’t seen it.
BURNIE: I did.
GEOFF: How was it.
JOEL: How was i- yeah.
BURNIE: It felt like exactly what it was. It felt like the first 3 episodes of a television series, and that’s what you saw.
GEOFF: Hmm, yeah.
GUS: D-D-Domestic gross: 35 million dollars.
GEOFF: There you go.
BURNIE: I have- I have seen every single one of those Star Wars Clone Wars that are on Cartoon Network, I have seen every single one.
GEOFF: Yeah?
BURNIE: I’m- I’m… I’m not doin’ well. I’m not doin’ well.
JOEL: I-It gets to the point with Star Wars where everytime I wa- e-e-i-w- a long time ago, where you start watching and then it’s like okay the guy jumps from and lands sp- and this a th- that, y’know, at some point you start thinking to yourself some point I’m gonna have to do that in a videogame. At some point I’m gonna have to do that in a videogame. That looks hard.
BURNIE: Yeah, Force Unleashed was a good Star Wars release. And C- Blew away Clone Wars, y’know, the videogame, I’m talkin’ about.
JOEL: Yeah.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Yeah, Clone Wars, they introduced this little girl character there which is uhh Ankin’s apprentice? And it’s just… Eughhh, it’s so hard. Especially when they have such cool characters they don’t use. Y’know, they take awesome characters like Darth Maul, spoiler, and kill ‘em, y’know, almost right away, you know, they gave Boba Fett a horrible death… Which I c- I read later that-
GEOFF: Supposedly he didn’t die or whatever.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: He didn’t die, yeah he-
GEOFF: Hey speaking of spoilers, should we uhhh, we’re trying to keep this one short. Should we segue to Spoiler Alert?
BURNIE: Yeah, yeah, don’t get me started on the Clone Wars stuff, I’ll go forever.
GEOFF: We can spend the next 4 hours talkin’ about Star Wars.
BURNIE: Yeah.
JOEL: And there’s been great debate about this office about… You know, should we spoil things in Star Trek or not.
BURNIE: Yeah, well there was that de- yeah there was.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Uh, Geoff I’m assuming you’re about to mention Joel and Matt’s video, Spoiler Alert.
GEOFF: Yeah! Spoiler Alert.
BURNIE: Yeah. Well there’s uh… they put out that video, which was great, Joel. Y’all did a great job on that.
GEOFF: Very well received on the internet. Internet said “yay”.
JOEL: Well that’s everybody, I mean everybody worked on, everybody- it’s… you know.
GEOFF: That is true.
BURNIE: It’s like an acceptance speech.
JOEL: I’d like to thank Gus. Uhh…
GEOFF: It had like a stunning cameo by me in it. As well.
JOEL: And I love-
GEOFF: Carryin’ my bags of ice.
JOEL: -I love that people got that.
GEOFF: Yeah I did too, it was cool.
GUS: I love the guys who said uhh they saw Burnie carrying ice in the background of the video.
BURNIE: How’d that make you feel Geoff? Making that mistake.
GEOFF: Old n- old and fat.
JOEL: MAN. That camera really does add 40 pounds!
GEOFF: Somebody also asked if I was Adam Sessler, which is even more insulting.
BURNIE: Adam Sessler?
GUS: Wow.
BURNIE: Who the fuck made an Adam Sessler reference?
GEOFF: Some kid on the site.
BURNIE: Wow. Wow. We’re really uhh, we’re really punchin’ up the references here with Johnathan Frakes and Adam Sessler. Okay.
GUS: I guess maybe I should- I should write down the- the URLs for that, imdB profiles, so people know who they are. That’d be useful. My wife watched that Spoiler Alert vide and said that she thought Matt’s… style, Matt’s delivery was a lot like Michael Cera.
GEOFF: Really?
BURNIE: Nah, I don’t know.
JOEL: Who’s that?
GEOFF: I don’t see that at all.
GUS: He’s the… kid from Superbad, like the skinny guy?
BURNIE: I-
GEOFF: Fuck stammering kid.
BURNIE: Fuck this, enough complimenting.
GEOFF: The Michael Cera.
BURNIE: Fuck that. We’re done- we’re done complimenting ourselves.
GUS: Th-That’s the imdB profile. Shit, I gotta write all these down. Okay wh-who was it uhhh, it was-
JOEL: Hey Michael.
BURNIE: It was a big debate in the- in the video, we put up a couple URLs, and wealways have this habit of whenever we put a URL in any video, we instantly register it.
GEOFF: Absolutely.
BURNIE: Doesn’t matter what it is.
GEOFF: We even own- for instance, Captain Incredible with an E.
BURNIE: Yes.
GEOFF: From the Captain Dynamic series.
BURNIE: Yeah, I think Captain Slippery was taken.
GEOFF: Yeah?
BURNIE: Just like yeah. That’s the truth mirroring art. But uhh… So we grabbed the domains that we put up in the Spoiler Alert video, and we thought it’d be funny for the people who registered domains underneath us all the time? Uhh, ‘cause there’s a lot of people who when they watch the videos will just instantly go out and grab those videos, we thought about putting up a whole bunch of Star Trek spoilers. Like Mad had made this site, and put up a bunch of spoilers for Star Trek, and it was a big debate whether or not to do that, and I was the guy who said absolutely not.
GUS: I actually- I actually pushed it live for about 5 minutes yesterday and if you went to zellnerteeth.com for- in that 5 minute yesterday, you had the Star Trek movie spoiled for you. And then uhm-
JOEL: Wh-what are we doing right now. We’re trying to chase people away from our URLs, is that what we’re doing?
BURNIE: Well that’s not- I mean- I mean those sites we don’t do anything with them, like we have donutcamkissesforever.
GEOFF: smole.com
BURNIE: smole.com
JOEL: And uhm, Gus probably has some entertaining stories…
GEOFF: Uhh, we have presidentialsluts.com, right?
GUS: Awh right. And then every- everytime we register these domains- You know we have a lot of them, we also have like dickfartvaginabutt.com and uhh… You know we host our own primary DNS, this is a little technical. And anytime we register these domains, I have to send an e-mail to our h- to our co-location facility asking them t- do slave secondary DNS? So I have to write e-mails that are like, ”Dear host master: can you please slave dickfartvaginabutt.com on my primary DNS server? And I had to ask him to do g- what? Gaysnapekills- no, straightsnapekillsgaydumbledore.com this week? It’s-it’s always fun, I-I-I won- I wonder what the look on that dude’s face is whenever he sees the e-mail i-inbox from me. What is it this time.
BURNIE: You know, Joel- uh Joel you probably have the same thought process as I do now, where I’m just gonna build on URLs-
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: -that make Gus register them now.
GEOFF: Make the most offensive URL as possible.
JOEL: Exactly.
BURNIE: Like uh…
JOEL: We need to start personalizing. Put Gus’ name in the URL s-
BURNIE: Like trannysailormoon.com that’s gonna be the next one. G- Gus’diary.com. See now we have to re- register these because I mentioned them. Alright, so let’s talk about the world of video games that- or- or since we’re talking about site stuff with Spoiler Alert, do we wanna talk about anything else that’s going on on the site?
GEOFF: Uhmmm…
BURNIE: We did Open ID this week, Gus do you wanna- Do you want to explain why we did Open ID?
GUS: Open ID- It’s-it’s a system that allows people to create accounts from our site with some information prepopulated. So, let’s say you have a Facebook account or a m- I’m not sure all the participating sites are, but I’ll use Facebook as an example, because I know that they’re one of the participating sites. You have a Facebook account, you come to our site, you can click I have a Facebook account, I want to sign-up. You click that, and it automatically creates an account for you with your Facebook avatar and your real name as a username, but you can change that.
BURNIE: Now I want to clarify something about this. It’s not a Facebook uhhh, it’s not a Facebook account or a-a-uh Myspace account. Open ID is the overriding thing here.
GUS: Right, it’s like a unified authentication system that all these sites use.
BURNIE: Right, and what this is is this something the internet- we’ve had a social site now for about 4 or 5 years, and this is something I think everyone kind of wants, which is like a unified global ID that they can use for anything, so you don’t have to constantly make accounts on stuff.
GUS: Well it makes sense, like people like me. I’ve got like, 10 e-mail addresses.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: I don’t know what the fuck I signed up with.
BURNIE: Right. Exactly.
JOEL: And so what is the #1 complaint against that that you’ve heard and w-w…
BURNIE: Well I know I… The number 1 complaint is that people are using it t- people could use it to make duplicate accounts.
JOEL: Right, and why is that invalid?
BURNIE: Well that- No it’s- that’s actually our fault because we kind of fucked up in that when we put it up, we put it up as “sign-in on RoosterTeeth” with your Rooster Teeth ID, “sign-up for a RoosterTeeth ID”, or “sign-in using one of your other accounts”. And the reason that Facebook or Myspace are listed are ‘cause those are currently the big players. If this thing had come around 5 years ago, it would’ve been like Geocities and Yahoo and all that stuff right? So, we made a mistake in we put it up as sign-up as one of those accounts- or sign-in with one of those accounts, and it shoulda said “sign-up”.
GUS: It was just- I was just a verbage problem.
BURNIE: Yeah!
GUS: The wording was a little confusing… Nice ringtone. We went through and uh tried to adjust it a bit, and it’s a- it’s a lot clearer now.
BURNIE: Normally what we do with any of these features, now, is that we push them out to sponsors first, right? And then we test them for a week, work out the little kinks, and then roll them out to the entire site. Obviously, if we have a sign-in thing we can’t tie it to the sponsors, so that only the sponsors can see it, ‘cause the site doesn’t know you’re a sponsor ‘till you’ve signed in. So, this is kind of something we had to push out there, see how it works, see the problems with it, and then make some changes really quickly. Which is what we did.
GUS: I-I can read you a quick list of the- of the uhh… th-
GEOFF: Participating…
GUS: -of the Open ID.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: It’s uhh Google, Windows Live ID, Facebook, Yahoo, Open ID, Myspace ID, Flickr, Wordpress, My Open ID, AOL, Livejournal and Blogger.
BURNIE: A- And you know what, it doesn’t- it doesn’t matter a bit, right, because it doesn’t matter who’s using it now, it’s just clear that this in the future is what people are going to use. So when y’know, Beebop.org comes out, and everyone’s on beebop.org ten years from now, you’ll have your Open ID, and it’ll be important- it’s a future proofing thing. Y’know? And so it t- it just makes sense for us to use it because in the future, a lot more people are going to have an Open ID account, and it’s a good open standard, it’s what you want the internet to be, you know? You don’t want the internet to be these five sites like Facebook or Myspace or plffhh, whatever’s comin’ out. You kno-
GEOFF: Just makes your life a little bit easier.
BURNIE: Yeah, exactly right. Exactly right.
GUS: Yeah, like I was… I signed up for the Battlefield Heroes beta the other day, and uhmmm… like I had to sign in with an EA profile I didn’t know I had made.
BURNIE: Right.
GUS: And I don’t even remember which e-mail it was.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: And if they use Open ID, or great example of something we all do, that w- I wished used Open ID is Xbox Live. Every time I go to recover a damn account, it’s like, “What e-mail address did I use?”
JOEL: Yeah.
BURNIE: A-And, your Open ID, as long as you know that ID, you can change everything else behind it, like e-mail addresses- I can’t update my e-mail address on Xbox Live!
GUS: I will say this: Windows Live ID was listed- is listed as one of the participating Open ID uhh sites.
BURNIE: Are they?
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: Okay, great.
GUS: So uh th-there’s probably a way to do that.
BURNIE: But I know Xbox Live and Live, they tie directly to your e-mail address. My e-mail address for my gamertag is like 6 e-mail addresses ago.
GUS: Oh yeah, I see. Yeah, like I used a Hotmail account when I set up my Xbox Live, ‘cause I figured it was Microsoft, I wanted it to keep it all the same, so that’s why… I-I can change I guess like that.
BURNIE: This is normally- w- I want to bring up the one thing in my life that Gus is envious of, is the fact that I was in the Xbox Live beta group? And I-
GUS: Yeah… Fuck you.
BURNIE: I have my special memory card.
GUS: Well I got in the beta group later than you, like I got in the beta group too, but it was like way past the- when they were just giving it away to everyone.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: And it- you know I never registered “Burnie”, I registered “buzzbee” back then.
GUS: You probably would’ve been able to get it back then.
BURNIE: I couldn’t’ve, ‘cause I found the guy- that the guy who has Burnie is actually on the Live Launch Team. Anyway… So, that’s why- that’s why we’ve instituted this Open ID thing. If you’re an existing member of Rooster Teeth, you can tie any of your other accounts now into your Rooster Teeth account.
GUS: It’s in the “Edit Profile” section.
BURNIE: It doesn’t do anything except for log in. Like it won’t- it won’t tie your Facebook to your RoosterTeeth, it won’t put updates on one or the other. I know people like to keep that stuff separate, I certainly do. Uhh, it’s just a way to log in. That’s all it is. So if you already have a Rooster Teeth account you don’t need to do anything, y’know, it’s just for people coming to the site in the future, and allows them to easily log in. Like tha- that… People say, “Well how long can it possibly take to sign up for an account?” It doesn’t matter. The fact that it takes time keeps people from doing it.
JOEL: Humanity cannot move forward as a species, until we have those Open ID and everybody is using it. It’s taking too much time to-
GUS: It was- it-
JOEL: -go and remember everything?
GUS: It- it was a vital plot point in Star Trek.
JOEL: It was!
BURNIE: Don’t say that. Spoiler free.
GUS: Spoiler.
GEOFF: Well hey, keeping the podcast moving, you mentioned Battlefield Heroes?
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: Uhh, you so far are the only one of us to my knowledge that has played it, but I watched over your shoulder for a bit, what do you wanna give some impressions?
GUS: Uhhh-
JOEL: It looked great.
GUS: -First of all, I was a little upset that there was not a Mac version.
GEOFF: Yeeaaahhh…
GUS: Uh we- We’re pretty much are all Mac in the office now. Burnie luckily has his uhh, his Dell out there.
BURNIE: yes, that’s right!
GUS: One of only 2 Windows machines in the office so.
GEOFF: I guess Mac-Gamer parody video we did 6 years ago has finally come back to bite us in the ass.
GUS: Yeah, no shit.
JOEL: Full circle.
GUS: Yeah, uhh so you download it. It’s uh- it-it took a little while to set up, but… It seems okay.
GEOFF: Yeah?
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: Did you have fun playing it?
GUS: It’s… It’s kind of fun, I mean I-I… It’s a free game so you can’t complain.
GEOFF: It looked like Team Fortress 2 and Battlefield 1942 merged, which sounds cool.
GUS: It’s kinda like the… Th- I have some concerns about it, I feel like it takes forever to kill people. Like… I have a machine gun and I’m shooting someone in the face, I could shoot them for 45 seconds before they die.
GEOFF: Really?
BURNIE: I’m- I-I-I only played it for 5 minutes, but I gotta say I was not overly impressed by it. I also didn’t see anyone in a vehicle.
GUS: hmm, yeah yeah I thought that was weird, the map you were in didn’t have any vehicles.
BURNIE: Okay, may- t-to me that’s a big part of Battlefield is, they were the first people to get the “get in a tank, get in a plane”, do whatever you want to thing right.
GUS: I feel the airplane controls are kinda sluggish and weird in that game too.
BURNIE: uh, I can tell you the FPS controls are sluggish and weird from what I played. And I said- I said while I was sitting there playing and Gus was watching over my shoulder, I said, “This computer has Steam on it, why wouldn’t we just go out and buy Team Fortress 2?” And you two made the argument, Geoff and Gus, “Well this is a free game.” You know, 20 bucks is… There’s not much distance between free and 20 bucks for most people, you know what I mean? I-If it’s something you’re gonna play for a hundred hours, y’know, or pick up and play? Y’know, I-I would just buy Team Fortress 2.
GUS: Free is free.
BURNIE: Free is free. Right. I mean it’s nice. And the cool thing about it too, maybe on a computer you’re not on, you could just sit down, y’know, and just go to the URL, you know, if you move around a lot especially if you’re at school or something like that-
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: -it’s like a pick up and go game.
GEOFF: Also-
GUS: It’s weird- it’s weird how you log in. It’s kinda like all browser based, you go to like a website and hit play now. There’s no actually client you launch on your desktop.
BURNIE: And we-
JOEL: I love that.
BURNIE: We just saw- we just saw on somebody’s Twitter who we know uhh who works at Blizzard that they’re now signing up for the Starcraft 2 beta.
GUS: Yes.
BURNIE: Are you gonna do it Gus?
GUS: Already did it.
BURNIE: Alright.
GUS: I think uhh, you go to Battle.net? Uhhh let me look it up.
BURNIE: It’s Battlenet right?
GEOFF: Yeah- y-y- you go into your settings in like Battlenet and uhhh…
GUS: Yeah.
GEOFF: … make yourself eligible? Or something?
GUS: There’s a beta profile.
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: Uhh I’ll go and- we’ll put a link up for it, with uhh, with this podcast.
GEOFF: but the one thing that’s nice about uhhh a game like Battlefield Heroes being free is that we can very easily do tournaments of it on the site.
BURNIE: Yeah. That is true.
GEOFF: That’s something that everybody has access to, so… ‘Cause the complaint I always hear about our s- about tournaments are, “Oh, I don’t have a 360, how am I supposed to play in the tournament.”
BURNIE: That’s not a complaint really, it’s just people-
GEOFF: Not that you have to fucking buy a 360-
BURNIE: -want to point out to you.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Like, hey we’re having a Halo tournament tonight, and they want to comment,” Great, I don’t have Halo.”
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Well then don’t… Don’t comment!
GUS: We’ll- we’ll send you a copy!
BURNIE: Commenting is not mandatory, you don’t have to comment, and tell us that you DON’T have 360, or you DON’T have Halo. It’s like, if you don’t show up, we’ll get it. We w- We will understand that you couldn’t be there for whatever reason. It’s like w-ge- Whenever Gus… I love to go to your comments whenever you post a tech question? Like: “Hey, I’m configuring these two ser- these two servers…”
JOEL: And you get like 30 comments that are all like,” Sorry.”
BURNIE: “I can’t help.”
JOEL: “No idea what you’re talking about right now.”
GEOFF: “I don’t even know what a server is.”
GUS: It’s the worst thing in the world. “I wish I had a server.”
GEOFF: ”Must be nice.” So we talked about Flock-
BURNIE: N-W- No, while we’re on the topic of videogames. We talked about, uhh Battlefield Heroes and stuff that’s in beta. Should we give a quick moment of silence for 3D Realms?
GEOFF: Ohhhhhhh, yeah.
BURNIE: Who just closed yesterday, and who Duke Nukem Forever is apparently not gonna come out?
GUS: Well what I’m most concerned about is, what is Wired going to name as Vaporware of the year this year now?
GEOFF: God.
BURNIE: Thank god it’s off the list, right?
GUS: I mean, yeah, it’s been like 13 years, it’s like an institution.
GEOFF: Gus sent me an image last night of a Game Stop pre-order receipt from 2001. Somebody had made.
BURNIE: Yeah that’s uhhh, what is it? Silent00?
GUS: It was like Slash000 is a patient man.
BURNIE: Right. God. I mean I wasn’t- honestly, I didn’t give a crap about that game. I mean, it’s y’know… To me Serious Sam is name a better version of Duke Nukem than Duke Nukem ever was.
GUS: Serious Sam has come, made like 2 sequels, and gone. I’ve forgotten about that game!
GEOFF: Yeah, it’s crazy.
GUS: When was the last time they made a Serious Sam game? That was like … 6 years ago!
GEOFF: Wow.
BURNIE: That site that has the list of everything that’s happened since Duke Nukem announced and has been in development? It’s crazy the amount of stuff that’s come out since then.
GUS: U-
BURNIE: It’s all 3 Star Wars prequels have come out. Uh, all the entire Matrix trilogy, the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy? Everything that’s come out while Duke Nukem’s been-
GEOFF: Probably every Harry Potter movie?
GUS: Yeah definitely.
BURNIE: Probably Harry Potter.
GEOFF: Pro-probably, maybe Harry Potter.
BURNIE: As a book.
GUS: I-I looked the DOW- Wh-when it was announced the DOW was at 57 hundred.
BURNIE: Oh wow.
GEOFF & JOEL: WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
BURNIE: We actually haven’t come that far…
GUS: We went really far and then we came back.
JOEL: That’s crazy.
GEOFF: Jesus.
BURNIE: I love how the financial thing gets a rise out of you guys. But anyway, they’re- they’re… Duke Nukem is dead, it joins the ranks of stuff like Phantom, and every other piece of Vaporware-
GUS: Wh-It was 13 years, it was announced in ’96?
BURNIE: ’97 they said, yeah.
GUS: ’97… So ’97-
GEOFF: It was before any of us knew each other.
GUS: Yeah.
BURNIE: I was in my 7th year of college.
GEOFF: Just before- like we met in ’98, ’99, somewhere around there.
GUS: Yeah, we were busy dropping out!
JOEL: W-we-we just wrapped The Schedule.
BURNIE: Yeah, we had just finished making The Schedule. Joel and I. So.
JOEL: May-maybe even a year earlier.
BURNIE: Yeah. That’s crazy.
GEOFF: I was probably in Kuwait. In the army, jesus. That’s a long-
JOEL: Hey-
GEOFF: -ass time ago.
JOEL: Geoff, are you enjoying playing Wolverine are we allo- are we allowed to talk about that?
GEOFF: Wolverine?
BURNIE: Wolverine’s out?
GUS: Yeah Wolverine’s out.
GEOFF: Wolverine’s been out for a week.
JOEL: See, I can’t even tell. I- Is anyone going to see-
BURNIE: Joel is playing a game right now for something we’re working on for a television commercial? I WISH we could talk about that game.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: That game is fucking awesome dude! But we definitely- later in a later podcast if we bring up this game again-
GUS: We won’t talk about it.
BURNIE: -This game is-
JOEL: The gameplay’s a lot of fun.
BURNIE: OH MY GOD IT’S GREAT! By the way…
GEOFF: It’s- I wish I could even describe like- ‘cause it’s like 2 things put together, but I don’t even want to mention that to give it a clue but, yeah Joel’s working on a- like a commercial for it I guess. And the reason you’re asking about the Wolverine thing is ‘cause you made the TV Spots for the Wolverine commercial right?
JOEL: W- We did- hopefully that’s-
GEOFF: Some of it.
JOEL: -came off okay, but di-did anyone going to see the movie?
GEOFF: Uhmmm I-
BURNIE: N- I haven’t seen-
GEOFF: Yeah, I don’t know. It’s hard- I’d like to.
GUS: Wasn’t planning on it.
BURNIE: You know-
GEOFF: I probably will.
BURNIE: -I gotta say movie theatres right now are the only thing to me that’s like registering on that like Swine Flu paranoia level-
GEOFF: Hm.
BURNIE: -for me like… I don’t want to go sit in a movie theatre with a bunch of random people, I just don’t want to do it.
JOEL: You know, I-I- I just-
GEOFF: Is it because of that scene in Outbreak?