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BURNIE: And Gus, go with the theme song.
GUS: Hey everyone, it’s a podcast.
GEOFF: Bum bum, bump bummm, Podcast.
GUS: … .com!
BURNIE: Wow, you got help on yours. Geoff ha- Geoff joined in.
GUS: Mmhmm.
GEOFF: I love Gus.
BURNIE: Little instrumental.
GUS: Hey it’s Gus here, with the Rooster Teeth Podcast, and two other assholes.
GEOFF: Buh-doo-poop!
BURNIE: Yeah, this week we don’t uh- we don’t have Joel with us, he’s out in the front room. I think Joel’s mad because he- I don’t think he likes the character we’re establishing for him.
GEOFF: Well, in that case, let me continue on by saying that uhh Joel came into the office very frazzled this morning at about 9:30 or so, because he’d been working on a project file in Final Cut the previous night? And in his words, “saved it over a million times but then couldn’t find it.” And he assured me that he had named it “Something something-Joel”and that it was on RAID5. It took me about 20 minutes of him fretting, before I found it saved on a local drive in a folder for a different game that didn’t have his name, or any identifying marks on it whatsoever. I don’t know how I found it., but uhh… It was pretty funny. I realized that Joel has- was completely befuddled by the idea of where to save something or what to call it.
BURNIE: RAID 5 is our Network drive that we use to record most of our audio- or video footage that we use for different projects so. I-I really like that piece of equipment because it’s got like this- this like array of hard drives on it and you can click it and pull ‘em out one by one? The coolest thing about it is that they’re all freezing cold, even though everything else is hot. I don’t know how they do that.
GUS: Yeah, it’s really weird.
GEOFF: It’s kind of like that- kind of like in 2010? When they gotta… go to Hal and try to remove the- certain points of him?
BURNIE: Th-
GEOFF: You know what I’m talking about?
BURNIE: Those are crystals.
GUS: Yeah that was- that was pretty different.
GEOFF: Same kind of thing. Like, push a button, some shit comes out.
GUS: It was 2001 also, wasn’t it?
GEOFF: Nah, I was talking about 2010.
GUS: O-okay.
BURNIE: A- Also our side of-
GEOFF: With John Lithgow.
BURNIE: Ha- G-Geoff’s difference between 2001 are the flashback scenes from 2010. Basically. Alright, uhh, so what do we have to talk about this week? Do you guys want to… like go outside of our comfort zone and talk about something that could be spoilerish and talk about Lost, because the Lost season finale was-
GEOFF: Last night.
BURNIE: -Last night, for us. Yeah.
GEOFF: But-
GUS: Yeah, fuck it, why not?
GEOFF: But the time this comes out tomorrow it would’ve already appeared everywhere right?
GUS: Uh- a w- It’s aired. It’s over.
GEOFF: You g-
GUS: The-
GEOFF: There’s so much to talk about. I- I don’t actually watch Lost, but I read it on Wikipedia?
GUS: He reads about it, and then I have to tell him about it the day after an episode-
GEOFF: An th- He fills in. Because- the problem is we got five episodes behind, and my wife refuses to let me catch up. I don’t know what it is, but uh, she won’t- she wants to watch a new episode, but she refuses to watch an old episode? But we can’t get to the new episodes before we get through the old episodes, which is retarded I know, so I just read about Lost now. But anyway, the point is, it was such-
GUS: Wh-Wh-
GEOFF: -an epic episode, that Gus came in this morning and I wanted to him about it with him, ‘cause I had read about it on Wikipedia, and we went downstairs and we got coffee, because we didn’t want to spoil it for Nathan.
BURNIE: Geoff is shot out of a cannon!
GEOFF: I am. You see it’s morning, I haven’t had any beer for lunch or anything. I’m still awake. SO we went downstairs and we got coffee, and we went all the way from the coffee shop to my wife’s … place of work, which is like 10 blocks away because I forgot my memory card and she brought it to work, and then all the way back, and then we went to the conference room and we sat in the conference room for 15 minutes.
GUS: Yeah, yeah.
GEOFF: And that was all just Gus getting his synopsis of the episode.
GUS: Wh-One of the great things that- and we need to write this down, so we can give a link, uhhh associated with the podcast, but we found those Lost Untangled videos that apparently-
GEOFF: Oh man.
GUS: -ABC puts out and doesn’t promote, and no one’s ever heard of?
GEOFF: Yeah, each video has like 6,000 views on YouTube but they are tremendous.
GUS: No, no, each video has like 500 views on YouTube.
GEOFF: Is that right? I thought it was 6,000.
GUS: It’s like a five- it’s like a five minute synopsis of a Lost episode using stick figures and a comic book style.
BURNIE: But isn’t it done by ABC?
GUS: Yeah i-
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: -it’s done by ABC, and they have- they only- like th-the video with the most views has 22,000 views. Most of their videos have like 500 to 800 views.
BURNIE: And what is it.
GUS: It’s like a 5 minute synopsis of every vi- uhh every Lost episode. It’s- it’s very comic book style, meets greatest episode ever, like stick figures, and acting it out.
BURNIE: Now is it, is it done by the producers of Lost, or is it just done by the Network.
GUS: I don’t- It’s done by the network it seems like.
GEOFF: It’s pretty hilarious.
GUS: But, it’s- it’s pretty well done, and it’s pretty faithful to, uhhh, to the episode, so it gets all the major points across, it manages to be funny, and… really- really entertaining.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Alright, so, is the rule now, that if something is out there, it’s okay to talk about it.
GUS: It’s fair game.
GEOFF: Yep.
GUS: I- w-we’re gonna warn people right now that we’re gonna talk about it.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: And they can- they can- they can stop listening.
BURNIE: I have no idea, dude, we’ll assume we’re going to be talking about this for fifteen minutes maybe?
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: At the most? So… if you want to fast forward 15, I guess you could do that.
GUS: At 15 minutes and 5 seconds I’m going to shout out the biggest spoiler I can.
BURNIE: Bu- But you know the- the weird thing about it is that… i- people get so uptight about spoiler stuff, for stuff they have yet to watch that’s been out there for- I mean really the point should be that when it comes out, that should be the point in which people can talk about it, right?
GUS: Right, and then if you haven’t seen it you have to- it’s your duty to remove yourself… from the public.
GEOFF: An-
BURNIE: well-
GEOFF: Case in point; I uhh-
BURNIE: -You can’t get upset about it, because you didn’t care enough about it to watch it.
GUS: Right.
BURNIE: So…
GEOFF: When we filmed the Spoiler Alert video? I had never seen There Will Be Blood, and that totally- the milkshake line totally spoiled the movie for me, but the movie’s been out for 2 years, it’s my fault.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: Y’know?
BURNIE: Espec ially when you-
GEOFF: I do- I don’t wanna grudge anyone.
BURNIE: -more of the bowling pin, where-
GEOFF: Bowling pin. Whatever. I know the scene.
BURNIE: -than the milkshake thing.
GEOFF: I don’t know who he kills, but I know h- when I finally watch the movie, I’m gonna know.
BURNIE: Yeah, man it’s cr- it’s crazy when you see those big performance movies like that and you think like, they’re gonna be huge and then they just turn out to be like- you never talk about them again.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: We saw the Wrestler.
GEOFF: Goddamn.
BURNIE: I mean that seemed like such a fantastic movie but it didn’t win best picture, it didn’t win Mickey Rourke and Oscar, and then it’s just like, then what happens with that movie, it’s not really like- nobody’s go- I don’t see people going out and like screaming at the Wrestler DVD. Is it even out-?
GEOFF: Right. It’s probably-
GUS: I think it- I think it just came out.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: Probably not going to make AFI’s top 100 films of all time.
BURNIE: But what an awesome movie.
GUS: I-I-I-I-I
GEOFF: What an awesome movie.
GUS: -It’s helping relaunch uhh Mickey Rourke’s… career-
GEOFF: Yeeahh.
GUS: -giving him more work.
BURNIE: He plays the “Crimson Dynamo” in the new Iron Man movie.
GEOFF: Yes he does.
BURNIE: Which is awesome.
GEOFF: You know Gary Shandling is in the new Iron Man movie too?
GUS: Oh.
BURNIE: Yeah. I- no, I didn’t know that but-
GUS: UH OH.
BURNIE: -uh oh.
GUS: WHOOW WHOOW.
BURNIE: The problem with Iron Man is… If you go too deep in Iron Man, you start to have to put in villains, and there are no villains-
GEOFF: No, no.
BURNIE: -in the Iron Man series.
GUS: That’s- that’s a big problem with a lot of things. Star Trek doesn’t have good villains either, aside from, like, Khan I guess.
GEOFF: I would argue that Khan’s not a good villan if you go back and really watch.
GUS: Well he’s the only memorable one really.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: Can you name another, like Star Trek movie villain?
GEOFF: M-
BURNIE: So, what was the path we took here? From our, spoilers of Lost… to now-
GEOFF: Star Trek?
BURNIE: -talking about Mickey Rourke… being the Crimson Dynamo, and Star Trek villains.
GEOFF: Owh man.
BURNIE: Next we’re gonna be talking about s- stuff for sale in QBC or something like that- Okay. So talk about Lost. You- you apparently liked i- Uh oh.
GEOFF: Telephone! Just call it maybe-
BURNIE: Nope, I don’t want to answer.
GUS: Uhm, d-did you see Lost? L-L-Let’s start with this.
BURNIE: I did see Lost.
GUS: Did you like it?
BURNIE: Uhm… listen: I- I thought the best season finale for Lost was season 3, when Jack with crazy beard- I like dudes with crazy beards, first of all. But, that’s the moment when they switch from doing flashbacks, to doing present day or Flash Forwards in that particular case. They- they- they switch from what we’ve been watching all along to those flashbacks to this new thing that they’re doing, and it felt like a payoff for everything you’d seen so far.
GUS: Mmhmm.
BURNIE: Like you had this really cool moment of, “Oh they’re not flashing back, they’re showing that these people are off the island and we’ve been watching it the whole time.” That was… To me, that was fantastic. Season 4, they introduced the people parachuting onto the island?
GUS: Mmhmm.
BURNIE: Uhh, you know that set up the Miles characters, and n- the Faraday character- most of those people are dead now, except for Miles. This one felt just like the season 4 one to me, where they all of a sudden introduce people who we’ve never seen before, uhh, they’re kind of based on what we know about the island, and they’re setting up what’s really going to happen in season 5, or the final season or whatever.
GUS: Season 6.
GEOFF: Season 6.
BURNIE: Season 6. And they’re setting all that stuff up, an- and I had the feeling, while I liked it a lot, I had a feeling that they were setting up the final season of Lost, which to me feels like it’s going to be a very great season that’s going to feel inspired by the popular series, Lost. Like I don’t think that anything we’ve gone with all along, is gonna be anything more than a prologue to what’s about to happen.
GUS: Got’cha.
BURNIE: That’s how I feel.
GUS: Hm.
BURNIE: Like they introduced, Jacob a long time ago… and… Even Ben like kind of… Diminutized Jacob by saying he was making up the fact that he couldn’t see him, uhh before, and now Richard, who is this guy on the island, who to me he is the most mysterious guy that we know nothing about? He apparently knows nothing now. I mean, he like wanders around in the jungle, not knowing anything. Knowing less than Locke knows, you know?
GUS: Well that was the payoff though. It was that that wasn’t actually Locke who knew all the stuff.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Right, th-the island Locke… who came back…
GUS: Right.
BURNIE: …Is not John Locke, it’s this counterpart to Jake-
GUS: Right, that’s why he knows more than Alpert.
BURNIE: Okay, okay so-
GUS: So I wou- I wouldn’t say that Richard Alpert knows less than Locke.
BURNIE: But what does he know? But what does R-Richard- All we know about Richard Alpert now is that he s- he seems to have confidence, and now that Jake made him the way he is? But he just seems like…
GUS: He’s-
BURNIE: …a guy.
GUS: -He’s in an advisor, that’s what they said.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: I mean, I-I I think that he doesn’t- I don’t think he wanders around you know, like an idiot. I think he does know a lot about the island, he just doesn’t say it, or he doesn’t talk about it.
BURNIE: Listen… I’m just bitter ‘cause they killed Juliet. I can’t tell ya how bitter I am.
GUS: Well, i- I… I don’t think she’s dead though, ‘cause at the end, when they had the eye opening, and it said “Lost in 2010”; that was her eye.
BURNIE: Okay. I could see that. But then you know she could be d- I mean. Is John Locke dead, but he’s still in the show. You know what I mean?
GUS: Right.
BURNIE: Technically the character of John Locke is now dead-
GUS: Mmhmm.
BURNIE: -But it- you know. Juliet is… She’s one of the best things on television because whether- whether she’s in marooned on an island, or stuck backwards in time in the 70’s, she can always find a low-cut top. She- doesn’t matter- Like, Dharma must- the Dharma Foundation must’ve had a stockpile of low-cut halter tops. For her to wear. It’s incredible. Then whe-
GUS: Wh-
BURNIE: -they kill her.
GUS: -Whenever uhh- lots of times I’m out in public with my wife, and I’m always pointing out, “God, doesn’t that woman look a lot like Juliet from Lost?” like “God, doesn’t that look a lot like Juliet from Lost?” My wife’s like, “Y-You’re in love with her, aren’t you. You’re totally obsessed with Juliet. Everyone looks like her to you.” And I was like, “Yeah…”
BURNIE: She’s probably the hottest woman on television.
GEOFF: She’s pretty hot.
BURNIE: Yeah, and then they o- and then they o-off her- but tha- that’s the way how I feel, I just feel like… I want everything that I’ve invested in so far to be something more than a prologue, but I don’t- I don’t- after the last night’s episode, I don’t think it’s gonna be that way.
GUS: Hey everyone, it’s a podcast.
GEOFF: Bum bum, bump bummm, Podcast.
GUS: … .com!
BURNIE: Wow, you got help on yours. Geoff ha- Geoff joined in.
GUS: Mmhmm.
GEOFF: I love Gus.
BURNIE: Little instrumental.
GUS: Hey it’s Gus here, with the Rooster Teeth Podcast, and two other assholes.
GEOFF: Buh-doo-poop!
BURNIE: Yeah, this week we don’t uh- we don’t have Joel with us, he’s out in the front room. I think Joel’s mad because he- I don’t think he likes the character we’re establishing for him.
GEOFF: Well, in that case, let me continue on by saying that uhh Joel came into the office very frazzled this morning at about 9:30 or so, because he’d been working on a project file in Final Cut the previous night? And in his words, “saved it over a million times but then couldn’t find it.” And he assured me that he had named it “Something something-Joel”and that it was on RAID5. It took me about 20 minutes of him fretting, before I found it saved on a local drive in a folder for a different game that didn’t have his name, or any identifying marks on it whatsoever. I don’t know how I found it., but uhh… It was pretty funny. I realized that Joel has- was completely befuddled by the idea of where to save something or what to call it.
BURNIE: RAID 5 is our Network drive that we use to record most of our audio- or video footage that we use for different projects so. I-I really like that piece of equipment because it’s got like this- this like array of hard drives on it and you can click it and pull ‘em out one by one? The coolest thing about it is that they’re all freezing cold, even though everything else is hot. I don’t know how they do that.
GUS: Yeah, it’s really weird.
GEOFF: It’s kind of like that- kind of like in 2010? When they gotta… go to Hal and try to remove the- certain points of him?
BURNIE: Th-
GEOFF: You know what I’m talking about?
BURNIE: Those are crystals.
GUS: Yeah that was- that was pretty different.
GEOFF: Same kind of thing. Like, push a button, some shit comes out.
GUS: It was 2001 also, wasn’t it?
GEOFF: Nah, I was talking about 2010.
GUS: O-okay.
BURNIE: A- Also our side of-
GEOFF: With John Lithgow.
BURNIE: Ha- G-Geoff’s difference between 2001 are the flashback scenes from 2010. Basically. Alright, uhh, so what do we have to talk about this week? Do you guys want to… like go outside of our comfort zone and talk about something that could be spoilerish and talk about Lost, because the Lost season finale was-
GEOFF: Last night.
BURNIE: -Last night, for us. Yeah.
GEOFF: But-
GUS: Yeah, fuck it, why not?
GEOFF: But the time this comes out tomorrow it would’ve already appeared everywhere right?
GUS: Uh- a w- It’s aired. It’s over.
GEOFF: You g-
GUS: The-
GEOFF: There’s so much to talk about. I- I don’t actually watch Lost, but I read it on Wikipedia?
GUS: He reads about it, and then I have to tell him about it the day after an episode-
GEOFF: An th- He fills in. Because- the problem is we got five episodes behind, and my wife refuses to let me catch up. I don’t know what it is, but uh, she won’t- she wants to watch a new episode, but she refuses to watch an old episode? But we can’t get to the new episodes before we get through the old episodes, which is retarded I know, so I just read about Lost now. But anyway, the point is, it was such-
GUS: Wh-Wh-
GEOFF: -an epic episode, that Gus came in this morning and I wanted to him about it with him, ‘cause I had read about it on Wikipedia, and we went downstairs and we got coffee, because we didn’t want to spoil it for Nathan.
BURNIE: Geoff is shot out of a cannon!
GEOFF: I am. You see it’s morning, I haven’t had any beer for lunch or anything. I’m still awake. SO we went downstairs and we got coffee, and we went all the way from the coffee shop to my wife’s … place of work, which is like 10 blocks away because I forgot my memory card and she brought it to work, and then all the way back, and then we went to the conference room and we sat in the conference room for 15 minutes.
GUS: Yeah, yeah.
GEOFF: And that was all just Gus getting his synopsis of the episode.
GUS: Wh-One of the great things that- and we need to write this down, so we can give a link, uhhh associated with the podcast, but we found those Lost Untangled videos that apparently-
GEOFF: Oh man.
GUS: -ABC puts out and doesn’t promote, and no one’s ever heard of?
GEOFF: Yeah, each video has like 6,000 views on YouTube but they are tremendous.
GUS: No, no, each video has like 500 views on YouTube.
GEOFF: Is that right? I thought it was 6,000.
GUS: It’s like a five- it’s like a five minute synopsis of a Lost episode using stick figures and a comic book style.
BURNIE: But isn’t it done by ABC?
GUS: Yeah i-
GEOFF: Yeah.
GUS: -it’s done by ABC, and they have- they only- like th-the video with the most views has 22,000 views. Most of their videos have like 500 to 800 views.
BURNIE: And what is it.
GUS: It’s like a 5 minute synopsis of every vi- uhh every Lost episode. It’s- it’s very comic book style, meets greatest episode ever, like stick figures, and acting it out.
BURNIE: Now is it, is it done by the producers of Lost, or is it just done by the Network.
GUS: I don’t- It’s done by the network it seems like.
GEOFF: It’s pretty hilarious.
GUS: But, it’s- it’s pretty well done, and it’s pretty faithful to, uhhh, to the episode, so it gets all the major points across, it manages to be funny, and… really- really entertaining.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Alright, so, is the rule now, that if something is out there, it’s okay to talk about it.
GUS: It’s fair game.
GEOFF: Yep.
GUS: I- w-we’re gonna warn people right now that we’re gonna talk about it.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: And they can- they can- they can stop listening.
BURNIE: I have no idea, dude, we’ll assume we’re going to be talking about this for fifteen minutes maybe?
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: At the most? So… if you want to fast forward 15, I guess you could do that.
GUS: At 15 minutes and 5 seconds I’m going to shout out the biggest spoiler I can.
BURNIE: Bu- But you know the- the weird thing about it is that… i- people get so uptight about spoiler stuff, for stuff they have yet to watch that’s been out there for- I mean really the point should be that when it comes out, that should be the point in which people can talk about it, right?
GUS: Right, and then if you haven’t seen it you have to- it’s your duty to remove yourself… from the public.
GEOFF: An-
BURNIE: well-
GEOFF: Case in point; I uhh-
BURNIE: -You can’t get upset about it, because you didn’t care enough about it to watch it.
GUS: Right.
BURNIE: So…
GEOFF: When we filmed the Spoiler Alert video? I had never seen There Will Be Blood, and that totally- the milkshake line totally spoiled the movie for me, but the movie’s been out for 2 years, it’s my fault.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: Y’know?
BURNIE: Espec ially when you-
GEOFF: I do- I don’t wanna grudge anyone.
BURNIE: -more of the bowling pin, where-
GEOFF: Bowling pin. Whatever. I know the scene.
BURNIE: -than the milkshake thing.
GEOFF: I don’t know who he kills, but I know h- when I finally watch the movie, I’m gonna know.
BURNIE: Yeah, man it’s cr- it’s crazy when you see those big performance movies like that and you think like, they’re gonna be huge and then they just turn out to be like- you never talk about them again.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: We saw the Wrestler.
GEOFF: Goddamn.
BURNIE: I mean that seemed like such a fantastic movie but it didn’t win best picture, it didn’t win Mickey Rourke and Oscar, and then it’s just like, then what happens with that movie, it’s not really like- nobody’s go- I don’t see people going out and like screaming at the Wrestler DVD. Is it even out-?
GEOFF: Right. It’s probably-
GUS: I think it- I think it just came out.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GEOFF: Probably not going to make AFI’s top 100 films of all time.
BURNIE: But what an awesome movie.
GUS: I-I-I-I-I
GEOFF: What an awesome movie.
GUS: -It’s helping relaunch uhh Mickey Rourke’s… career-
GEOFF: Yeeahh.
GUS: -giving him more work.
BURNIE: He plays the “Crimson Dynamo” in the new Iron Man movie.
GEOFF: Yes he does.
BURNIE: Which is awesome.
GEOFF: You know Gary Shandling is in the new Iron Man movie too?
GUS: Oh.
BURNIE: Yeah. I- no, I didn’t know that but-
GUS: UH OH.
BURNIE: -uh oh.
GUS: WHOOW WHOOW.
BURNIE: The problem with Iron Man is… If you go too deep in Iron Man, you start to have to put in villains, and there are no villains-
GEOFF: No, no.
BURNIE: -in the Iron Man series.
GUS: That’s- that’s a big problem with a lot of things. Star Trek doesn’t have good villains either, aside from, like, Khan I guess.
GEOFF: I would argue that Khan’s not a good villan if you go back and really watch.
GUS: Well he’s the only memorable one really.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: Can you name another, like Star Trek movie villain?
GEOFF: M-
BURNIE: So, what was the path we took here? From our, spoilers of Lost… to now-
GEOFF: Star Trek?
BURNIE: -talking about Mickey Rourke… being the Crimson Dynamo, and Star Trek villains.
GEOFF: Owh man.
BURNIE: Next we’re gonna be talking about s- stuff for sale in QBC or something like that- Okay. So talk about Lost. You- you apparently liked i- Uh oh.
GEOFF: Telephone! Just call it maybe-
BURNIE: Nope, I don’t want to answer.
GUS: Uhm, d-did you see Lost? L-L-Let’s start with this.
BURNIE: I did see Lost.
GUS: Did you like it?
BURNIE: Uhm… listen: I- I thought the best season finale for Lost was season 3, when Jack with crazy beard- I like dudes with crazy beards, first of all. But, that’s the moment when they switch from doing flashbacks, to doing present day or Flash Forwards in that particular case. They- they- they switch from what we’ve been watching all along to those flashbacks to this new thing that they’re doing, and it felt like a payoff for everything you’d seen so far.
GUS: Mmhmm.
BURNIE: Like you had this really cool moment of, “Oh they’re not flashing back, they’re showing that these people are off the island and we’ve been watching it the whole time.” That was… To me, that was fantastic. Season 4, they introduced the people parachuting onto the island?
GUS: Mmhmm.
BURNIE: Uhh, you know that set up the Miles characters, and n- the Faraday character- most of those people are dead now, except for Miles. This one felt just like the season 4 one to me, where they all of a sudden introduce people who we’ve never seen before, uhh, they’re kind of based on what we know about the island, and they’re setting up what’s really going to happen in season 5, or the final season or whatever.
GUS: Season 6.
GEOFF: Season 6.
BURNIE: Season 6. And they’re setting all that stuff up, an- and I had the feeling, while I liked it a lot, I had a feeling that they were setting up the final season of Lost, which to me feels like it’s going to be a very great season that’s going to feel inspired by the popular series, Lost. Like I don’t think that anything we’ve gone with all along, is gonna be anything more than a prologue to what’s about to happen.
GUS: Got’cha.
BURNIE: That’s how I feel.
GUS: Hm.
BURNIE: Like they introduced, Jacob a long time ago… and… Even Ben like kind of… Diminutized Jacob by saying he was making up the fact that he couldn’t see him, uhh before, and now Richard, who is this guy on the island, who to me he is the most mysterious guy that we know nothing about? He apparently knows nothing now. I mean, he like wanders around in the jungle, not knowing anything. Knowing less than Locke knows, you know?
GUS: Well that was the payoff though. It was that that wasn’t actually Locke who knew all the stuff.
GEOFF: Yeah.
BURNIE: Right, th-the island Locke… who came back…
GUS: Right.
BURNIE: …Is not John Locke, it’s this counterpart to Jake-
GUS: Right, that’s why he knows more than Alpert.
BURNIE: Okay, okay so-
GUS: So I wou- I wouldn’t say that Richard Alpert knows less than Locke.
BURNIE: But what does he know? But what does R-Richard- All we know about Richard Alpert now is that he s- he seems to have confidence, and now that Jake made him the way he is? But he just seems like…
GUS: He’s-
BURNIE: …a guy.
GUS: -He’s in an advisor, that’s what they said.
BURNIE: Yeah.
GUS: I mean, I-I I think that he doesn’t- I don’t think he wanders around you know, like an idiot. I think he does know a lot about the island, he just doesn’t say it, or he doesn’t talk about it.
BURNIE: Listen… I’m just bitter ‘cause they killed Juliet. I can’t tell ya how bitter I am.
GUS: Well, i- I… I don’t think she’s dead though, ‘cause at the end, when they had the eye opening, and it said “Lost in 2010”; that was her eye.
BURNIE: Okay. I could see that. But then you know she could be d- I mean. Is John Locke dead, but he’s still in the show. You know what I mean?
GUS: Right.
BURNIE: Technically the character of John Locke is now dead-
GUS: Mmhmm.
BURNIE: -But it- you know. Juliet is… She’s one of the best things on television because whether- whether she’s in marooned on an island, or stuck backwards in time in the 70’s, she can always find a low-cut top. She- doesn’t matter- Like, Dharma must- the Dharma Foundation must’ve had a stockpile of low-cut halter tops. For her to wear. It’s incredible. Then whe-
GUS: Wh-
BURNIE: -they kill her.
GUS: -Whenever uhh- lots of times I’m out in public with my wife, and I’m always pointing out, “God, doesn’t that woman look a lot like Juliet from Lost?” like “God, doesn’t that look a lot like Juliet from Lost?” My wife’s like, “Y-You’re in love with her, aren’t you. You’re totally obsessed with Juliet. Everyone looks like her to you.” And I was like, “Yeah…”
BURNIE: She’s probably the hottest woman on television.
GEOFF: She’s pretty hot.
BURNIE: Yeah, and then they o- and then they o-off her- but tha- that’s the way how I feel, I just feel like… I want everything that I’ve invested in so far to be something more than a prologue, but I don’t- I don’t- after the last night’s episode, I don’t think it’s gonna be that way.